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Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Cameron Shorter-2
One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

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Re: Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Camille Acey-3

There has been a lot of discussion of this in the past few years and I too would love to see this happen but as someone who has been in this space for a while, I think there are other organizations who could be better stewards for such a license and I happen to know of at least one that is attempting to do so in the coming year. It may make sense to wait on them.

Camille

One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

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Re: Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Cameron Shorter
Hi Camille,
I wasn't aware that you had been in the space for a while, and am not aware of what other initiatives are in progress. (All I've seen is the artifacts of other projects' hard work.)

I'd be interested to hear you expand on what you know of other initiatives, if you have contacts we can reach out to, who you think would be good stewards. Possibly also share some of your history in this space.

I do agree that there would likely be other foundations which would be better set up to lead a cross-organisation initiative.

Regards, Cameron

On 27/10/2015 12:37 am, Camille Acey wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion of this in the past few years and I too would love to see this happen but as someone who has been in this space for a while, I think there are other organizations who could be better stewards for such a license and I happen to know of at least one that is attempting to do so in the coming year. It may make sense to wait on them.

Camille

One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

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Re: Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Camille Acey-3
Hey Cameron,

I was involved with the Ada Initiative from 2012 to 2015 and sat on their advisory board. Now that TAI is defunct, there are some alumni working on starting a new organization that will carry that work forward.

I am also closely affiliated with people who work on Geek Feminism. I think I mentioned a lot of this at the outset of the discussion around CoC stuff (see archives). Geek Feminism wiki is a fairly good repo of efforts(and public reported incidents) to date.

Camille


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Camille,
I wasn't aware that you had been in the space for a while, and am not aware of what other initiatives are in progress. (All I've seen is the artifacts of other projects' hard work.)

I'd be interested to hear you expand on what you know of other initiatives, if you have contacts we can reach out to, who you think would be good stewards. Possibly also share some of your history in this space.

I do agree that there would likely be other foundations which would be better set up to lead a cross-organisation initiative.

Regards, Cameron

On 27/10/2015 12:37 am, Camille Acey wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion of this in the past few years and I too would love to see this happen but as someone who has been in this space for a while, I think there are other organizations who could be better stewards for such a license and I happen to know of at least one that is attempting to do so in the coming year. It may make sense to wait on them.

Camille

One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099

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Re: Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Cameron Shorter
Hi Camille,
Excellent credentials. :)

Do you know of an active email list or similar where people are publicly discussing future plans? It sounds like that would be the place to focus involvement.

Regards, Cameron

On 27/10/2015 6:26 am, Camille Acey wrote:
Hey Cameron,

I was involved with the Ada Initiative from 2012 to 2015 and sat on their advisory board. Now that TAI is defunct, there are some alumni working on starting a new organization that will carry that work forward.

I am also closely affiliated with people who work on Geek Feminism. I think I mentioned a lot of this at the outset of the discussion around CoC stuff (see archives). Geek Feminism wiki is a fairly good repo of efforts(and public reported incidents) to date.

Camille


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Camille,
I wasn't aware that you had been in the space for a while, and am not aware of what other initiatives are in progress. (All I've seen is the artifacts of other projects' hard work.)

I'd be interested to hear you expand on what you know of other initiatives, if you have contacts we can reach out to, who you think would be good stewards. Possibly also share some of your history in this space.

I do agree that there would likely be other foundations which would be better set up to lead a cross-organisation initiative.

Regards, Cameron

On 27/10/2015 12:37 am, Camille Acey wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion of this in the past few years and I too would love to see this happen but as someone who has been in this space for a while, I think there are other organizations who could be better stewards for such a license and I happen to know of at least one that is attempting to do so in the coming year. It may make sense to wait on them.

Camille

One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099

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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099

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Re: Reaching out to other foundations re standardising CoC docs and processes

Camille Acey-3
Hey Cameron,
Sorry for the long delay. I apologize that I don't have a mailing list to recommend at the moment but I'll pass along info as it becomes available.
Camille

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Camille,
Excellent credentials. :)

Do you know of an active email list or similar where people are publicly discussing future plans? It sounds like that would be the place to focus involvement.

Regards, Cameron


On 27/10/2015 6:26 am, Camille Acey wrote:
Hey Cameron,

I was involved with the Ada Initiative from 2012 to 2015 and sat on their advisory board. Now that TAI is defunct, there are some alumni working on starting a new organization that will carry that work forward.

I am also closely affiliated with people who work on Geek Feminism. I think I mentioned a lot of this at the outset of the discussion around CoC stuff (see archives). Geek Feminism wiki is a fairly good repo of efforts(and public reported incidents) to date.

Camille


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Camille,
I wasn't aware that you had been in the space for a while, and am not aware of what other initiatives are in progress. (All I've seen is the artifacts of other projects' hard work.)

I'd be interested to hear you expand on what you know of other initiatives, if you have contacts we can reach out to, who you think would be good stewards. Possibly also share some of your history in this space.

I do agree that there would likely be other foundations which would be better set up to lead a cross-organisation initiative.

Regards, Cameron

On 27/10/2015 12:37 am, Camille Acey wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion of this in the past few years and I too would love to see this happen but as someone who has been in this space for a while, I think there are other organizations who could be better stewards for such a license and I happen to know of at least one that is attempting to do so in the coming year. It may make sense to wait on them.

Camille

One of the great things about Open Source and Creative Commons licenses is that there are a few well understood licenses which have had the benefit of refinements from a large community.

I'd love to see the same developed for a Code of Conduct and associated documents. It seems a waste of our collective effort to develop multiple versions.

It would be more effort to engage others in the short term, but would have great benefits in the medium to long term.


How to others feel about this?

-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099

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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099


-- 
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099


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