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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GML lat-lon coverages and interoperability

jratike80

Hi,

 

Even wrote:

However I'm not sure in which way GDAL is involved in this discussion :-)

 

 

I am preparing for the future when GDAL will have a support for WCS 2.0.1 and it will try to read EPSG:4326 coverage data from GeoServers witch describe coverage like this: http://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wcs?service=WCS&version=2.0.1&request=DescribeCoverage&coverageID=nurc__Arc_Sample

 

I have a feeling that without a) making GDAL to interpret gridFunction or b) Geoserver changing the way to define rectified grid (if it is possible) GDAL will fail. If not before then at latest when it tries to read a subset of coverage or to put the server to do server side scaling to size.

 

Andrea wrote:

 

If there is no 1:1 correspondence between geographic and raster space axis, then I see no other way but to use Function to explicitly correlate the two.

How would you propose to proceed instead?

 

Perhaps with offset vectors? An example taken from “OGC GML in JPEG 2000 (GMLJP2) Encoding StandardPart 1: Core”

 

 

<gml:domainSet>

<gml:RectifiedGrid gml:id="rg0001_C0002" dimension="2"

srsName="http://www.opengis.net/def/crs/EPSG/0/4326">

<gml:limits>

<gml:GridEnvelope>

<gml:low>1 1</gml:low>

<gml:high>3 10</gml:high>

</gml:GridEnvelope>

</gml:limits>

<gml:axisLabels>Lat Long</gml:axisLabels>

<gml:origin>

<gml:Point gml:id="P0001">

<gml:pos>9.9 9.9</gml:pos>

</gml:Point>

</gml:origin>

<gml:offsetVector>0 3.71e-005</gml:offsetVector>

<gml:offsetVector>-3.71e-005 0</gml:offsetVector>

</gml:RectifiedGrid>

 

I hope I have understood right when I believe that this advice means “Read data from the JPEG 2000 file in sequence. Place the first data value to the origin and the second one where the first offsetVector points. It is: keep the latitude and increase the longitude by 3.71e-005 . Continue till the “high” limit of Long axis (10). Now the first row  is full. Place the 11th value where the second offsetVector points – so decrease Lat by -3.71e-005 and keep Long at the initial value. Fill the second row. Then one more step down and fill the 3rd row. You have finished”.

 

So even the grid axes are “column first – rows next” it is possible to fill the grid by streaming from the data source that is organized as “rows first” like JPEG 2000 or GeoTIFF. I can imagine I could demonstrate that if I had a chess board and 64 beans, even if someone rotates the board by 90 degrees.

 

I must admit that I am not at all sure that I have understood it right. Actually it is not even important for me. I just would like to see WCS to work fluently so that all the servers and clients would understand each other. Somehow I have hoped the OGC would support this goal by giving understandable examples and best practice documents.

 

By the way, Mr Baumann told that  [hidden email] is an open list but it does not seem to be open for everybody:

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-Jukka Rahkonen-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lähettäjä: Andrea Aime [mailto:[hidden email]]
Lähetetty: 10. huhtikuuta 2017 16:57
Vastaanottaja: Even Rouault <[hidden email]>
Kopio: Geoserver-devel <[hidden email]>; '[hidden email]' ([hidden email]) <[hidden email]>; Peter Baumann <[hidden email]>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] [gdal-dev] GML lat-lon coverages and interoperability

 

Hi Even,

in CIS 1.1 they state:

 

Coverages are assumed to have a 1:1 correlation between the axis names given in axis-Labels and gridLabels, i.e.: they shall relate pairwise, given by their sequence position. For example, axisLabels=“Lat Long h date” and gridLabels={i j k l} implies a correspondence of Lat with i, Long with j, h with k, and date with l. 

 

If there is no 1:1 correspondence between geographic and raster space axis, then I see no other way but to use Function to explicitly correlate the two.

How would you propose to proceed instead?

 

Cheers

Andrea

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Even Rouault <[hidden email]> wrote:

On lundi 10 avril 2017 15:06:55 CEST Andrea Aime wrote:

> Hi,

> sorry I lost track of the subject. So, to close up, and approach where the

> envelope is reported as "lat lon" and the "i j" raster space

> axis would map pairwise, so i pointing north-wards and j east-wards, would

> be considered valid?

> E.g., if one rescaling says "i is going to be 200 pixels" it really means

> the output image will be 200 pixels tall?

 

IMHO, importing EPSG axis order mess in raster space would seem to be foolish to me and cause major annoyances. Performance-wise, processing flipped rasters with classic algorithms that process line per line would be terrible as soon as they are large enough, since reading each line would in practice require to read the whole raster each time.

 

Even

 

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