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Hello,
First, sorry for my english Second : I've upgraded the python plugin made by Mr Jurgiel "Profile", witch is now able to work with polyline, with on the fly projection of raster, and with multi-band raster. I'm "amateur" developer, and i think i'm quite representative of people who don't know so much about development, but want humbly to contribute ... I wanted to join Mr Jurgiel to see if there's a place (like git..) where i can find and modify the source. but i found nothing. Then, readinq qgis web pages, i learned that there is the site "http://plugins.qgis.org/" where plugin can be shared. I registered and shared the plugin. also, i decided to create a project under http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, as recommended So, i've got some questions and remarks : - If Mr Jurgiel see my post, does he let me the right to share the plugin, whitch is under GNU LGPL ? (Do i need his agreement? - there's a copyright with his name on the top of .py code, what does it involve ?) - How do i know that the plugin is validated on http://plugins.qgis.org/ ? And if he's not, how do i know why ? I think that de validation procedure is quite complicated, everybody should put a plugin on http://plugins.qgis.org/. Maybe enabling comments about the plugin on this page should be a good way to : -know if the plugin is good or not, -simply have remarks about the plugin, without opening the tracker procedures. That is simplier for lot of people. -Then, creating a project on http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, i didn't succeed in creating project within the qgis-user-plugins projet. is it normal ? I 've read that the admin of the site is moving plugin ? Also, how enabling maximum of people to contribute on this plugin ? To conclude, i'm not a pro, but i have good intentions. if the basic procedure is explained on http://plugins.qgis.org/, some points are not explained, and amateur like me could be quite lost : how do i know if the plugin shared is validated ? how long does it take ? and if not validated, why ? how do i create a project within qgis-user-plugins project ? thank you for your attention and your answers, Patrice, France _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Hi
At the moment I am also working on upgrading a python plugin (Colour scale bar by bc-consult). Only a little testing is left and no changes to the user interface are made. Now the plugin should support linear interpolation (interpolates to ~200 color values if there are less than 100 colors specified) and treat exact styles like discrete styles without interpolation. The question is: should i make a new Plugin-Project or is there a way to update the old one for me. Or is it better to send the code to one which updates the plugin? best whishes thomas Am 06.03.2012 16:27, schrieb Patrice VERCHERE: Hello, _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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2012/3/6 Patrice VERCHERE <[hidden email]>:
> Hello, > > First, sorry for my english > Second : > I've upgraded the python plugin made by Mr Jurgiel "Profile", witch is now > able to work with polyline, with on the fly projection of raster, and with > multi-band raster. I'm "amateur" developer, and i think i'm quite > representative of people who don't know so much about development, but want > humbly to contribute ... > I wanted to join Mr Jurgiel to see if there's a place (like git..) where i > can find and modify the source. but i found nothing. > Then, readinq qgis web pages, i learned that there is the site > "http://plugins.qgis.org/" where plugin can be shared. I registered and > shared the plugin. > also, i decided to create a project under > http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, as recommended > > So, i've got some questions and remarks : > - If Mr Jurgiel see my post, does he let me the right to share the plugin, > whitch is under GNU LGPL ? Yes, this is the way GPL works, you can create a new work based on another work released under GPL , provided that your work is also released as GPL. (Do i need his agreement? - there's a copyright > with his name on the top of .py code, what does it involve ?) you should just leave copyright notice and add yours listing your modifications. > - How do i know that the plugin is validated on http://plugins.qgis.org/ ? The validation is really basic and automatic, it's a software procedure which controls that the plugin has required metadata. > And if he's not, how do i know why ? You maybe are talking about plugin approval. Currently a lot of people can approve plugins, usually the approval is very fast but there are no clear responsibilities between developers so it might happen that your plugin passes under silence, if this is the case, please complain (loud) on this list. > I think that de validation procedure is quite complicated, everybody should > put a plugin on http://plugins.qgis.org/. You are not the first to complain but I thing that clicking on "Share a plugin" and upload a single file (no other actions are required) is not really complicated. Of course you must be a registered user, for security reasons we cannot accept anonymous uploads. > Maybe enabling comments about the > plugin on this page should be a good way to : > -know if the plugin is good or not, > -simply have remarks about the plugin, without opening the tracker This is in the pipeline... feel free to implement it if you can, but keep in mind that most developers do not read comments but read the bug trackers. > procedures. That is simplier for lot of people. > -Then, creating a project on http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, > i didn't succeed in creating project within the qgis-user-plugins projet. is > it normal ? I would say yes. I cannot answer about the other questions, sorry. Best Regards. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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> I've upgraded the python plugin made by Mr Jurgiel "Profile", witch is now
> able to work with polyline, with on the fly projection of raster, and with > multi-band raster. Nice :) > I'm "amateur" developer, and i think i'm quite > representative of people who don't know so much about development, but > want humbly to contribute ... I wanted to join Mr Jurgiel to see if > there's a place (like git..) where i can find and modify the source. but i > found nothing. Then, readinq qgis web pages, i learned that there is the > site "http://plugins.qgis.org/" where plugin can be shared. I registered > and shared the plugin. also, i decided to create a project under > http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, as recommended > > So, i've got some questions and remarks : > - If Mr Jurgiel see my post, does he let me the right to share the plugin, > whitch is under GNU LGPL ? (Do i need his agreement? - there's a copyright > with his name on the top of .py code, what does it involve ?) Of course you don't need any permission, as long as you follow the GPL license. The copyright clause could be applicable e.g. for releasing under other license (what would be difficult, as it uses GPL-based QGIS API). Btw., it's GPL, not LGPL. > - How do i > know that the plugin is validated on http://plugins.qgis.org/ ? And if > he's not, how do i know why ? I think that de validation procedure is > quite complicated, everybody should put a plugin on > http://plugins.qgis.org/. Everybody can put a plugin, then one of moderators looks if there is nothing malicious and acept it. What is complicated in it? :) > Maybe enabling comments about the plugin on this > page should be a good way to : -know if the plugin is good or not, > -simply have remarks about the plugin, without opening the tracker > procedures. That is simplier for lot of people. -Then, creating a project > on http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, i didn't succeed in > creating project within the qgis-user-plugins projet. is it normal ? I 've > read that the admin of the site is moving plugin ? Also, how enabling > maximum of people to contribute on this plugin ? > _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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You can start by emailing the original author. If you don't get a
satisfactory response follow the same procedure as the previous person and upload your plugin to http://plugins.qgis.org/ and possibly create a project for it on http://hub.qgis.org There are a few questions I'm not sure about: Should the name be changed so both plugins can exist side by side? How long should one wait before circumventing the original author if they don't respond? Thanks, Alex On 03/06/2012 08:26 AM, Thomas Wahlmüller wrote: > Hi > > At the moment I am also working on upgrading a python plugin (Colour > scale bar by bc-consult). Only a little testing is left and no changes > to the user interface are made. Now the plugin should support linear > interpolation (interpolates to ~200 color values if there are less than > 100 colors specified) and treat exact styles like discrete styles > without interpolation. > > The question is: should i make a new Plugin-Project or is there a way to > update the old one for me. Or is it better to send the code to one which > updates the plugin? > > best whishes > thomas > > > Am 06.03.2012 16:27, schrieb Patrice VERCHERE: >> Hello, >> >> First, sorry for my english >> Second : >> I've upgraded the python plugin made by Mr Jurgiel "Profile", witch is >> now able to work with polyline, with on the fly projection of raster, >> and with multi-band raster. I'm "amateur" developer, and i think i'm >> quite representative of people who don't know so much about >> development, but want humbly to contribute ... >> I wanted to join Mr Jurgiel to see if there's a place (like git..) >> where i can find and modify the source. but i found nothing. >> Then, readinq qgis web pages, i learned that there is the site >> "http://plugins.qgis.org/" where plugin can be shared. I registered >> and shared the plugin. >> also, i decided to create a project under >> http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, as recommended >> >> So, i've got some questions and remarks : >> - If Mr Jurgiel see my post, does he let me the right to share the >> plugin, whitch is under GNU LGPL ? (Do i need his agreement? - there's >> a copyright with his name on the top of .py code, what does it involve ?) >> - How do i know that the plugin is validated on >> http://plugins.qgis.org/ ? And if he's not, how do i know why ? >> I think that de validation procedure is quite complicated, everybody >> should put a plugin on http://plugins.qgis.org/. Maybe enabling >> comments about the plugin on this page should be a good way to : >> -know if the plugin is good or not, >> -simply have remarks about the plugin, without opening the tracker >> procedures. That is simplier for lot of people. >> -Then, creating a project on >> http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins, i didn't succeed in >> creating project within the qgis-user-plugins >> <http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins> projet. is it normal >> ? I 've read that the admin of the site is moving plugin ? Also, how >> enabling maximum of people to contribute on this plugin ? >> >> To conclude, i'm not a pro, but i have good intentions. if the basic >> procedure is explained on http://plugins.qgis.org/, some points are >> not explained, and amateur like me could be quite lost : >> how do i know if the plugin shared is validated ? how long does it >> take ? and if not validated, why ? >> how do i create a project within qgis-user-plugins >> <http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins> project ? >> >> thank you for your attention and your answers, >> Patrice, France >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-developer mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Il 07/03/2012 01:41, Borys Jurgiel ha scritto:
> Everybody can put a plugin, then one of moderators looks if there is nothing > malicious and acept it. What is complicated in it? Please note: we described the process here http://plugins.qgis.org/ > How to add your plugin to this repository If you find it unclear or incomplete, please help us improving it. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini See: http://www.faunalia.it/pc _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Il 07/03/2012 01:57, Alex Mandel ha scritto:
> There are a few questions I'm not sure about: > Should the name be changed so both plugins can exist side by side? I think this would be very confusing for users, and should be avoided if possible. The best option is always collaborating, and avoid forking a project. This should be done IMHO only if the original author is completely unresponsive (in this case, the plugin i s a good candidate for deprecation). > How long should one wait before circumventing the original author if > they don't respond? It would be good to have a general rule: 2 weeks? All the best, and thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini See: http://www.faunalia.it/pc _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:03:46 +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Il 07/03/2012 01:57, Alex Mandel ha scritto: >> There are a few questions I'm not sure about: >> Should the name be changed so both plugins can exist side by side? > I think this would be very confusing for users, and should be avoided > if possible. > The best option is always collaborating, and avoid forking a project. +1 for that Boris, could you please review the changes and then merge them into your plugin ? For me it would be better to update one plugin than adding a new one to our internal qgis' package and explain the difference to the users. _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Thank you for your answers !
One first thing : i'm fan of qgis and now it's quite ok to use it for my job. I know it's simple to criticize something, but it's difficult to do the job. Unfortunatly, i don't know how making the work i'm talking about... Borys : I've uploaded the plugin in http://hub.qgis.org and made you and me admin of the plugin. the first commit is your original plugin. Is it ok for you ? I did it like that because i want to continue working on it ... Then, i was talking about the plugin approuval and not about validation.... sorry. Maybe indicating in http://plugins.qgis.org/ something like "Go to Qgis plugin repo and click on Share a plugin. The approuval procedure takes 2 weeks maximum. If not approuved, a e-mail will be sent to you." should be a good thing... Then, when writing "Register your plugin at http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins. The user plugin section on hub can show plugin info, let users add issues/tickets for your plugin and to have just ONE repository for all qgis plugins", actually it's not possible. Project can only be created in http://hub.qgis.org/projects/. So is it possible to enable creating project in ..../qgis-user-plugins or just say "Register your plugin at http://hub.qgis.org/projects/ ...." ? thanks, patrice > Objet : Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin development from amateur... _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Hi!
I just want to think public about this "forking" plugins problem: IMHO if the "old" functionality is preserved and the plugin is extended and has the same functionality plus a little (a lot) more.. than it would be good to contact the maintainer and collaborate with him.. If the old functionality is gone and it is a pretty much new plugin I'd vote to create a new plugin and give credits to the "inspirator" of the former plugin with "based on the plugin xyz created by" .. just my 2¢ kind regards Werner On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:03:46 +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> >> Il 07/03/2012 01:57, Alex Mandel ha scritto: >>> >>> There are a few questions I'm not sure about: >>> Should the name be changed so both plugins can exist side by side? >> >> I think this would be very confusing for users, and should be avoided >> if possible. >> The best option is always collaborating, and avoid forking a project. > > > +1 for that > > Boris, could you please review the changes and then merge them into your > plugin ? For me it would be better to update one plugin than adding a new > one to our internal qgis' package and explain the difference to the users. > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-developer mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 16:54:48 +0100
> From: Werner Macho <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin development from amateur... > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email] > Message-ID: > <CA+3oMjvrpBfUowSL8-kGR6RR0of4QWVN4CLh+NU=[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi! > > I just want to think public about this "forking" plugins problem: > > IMHO if the "old" functionality is preserved and the plugin is > extended and has the same functionality plus a little (a lot) more.. > than it would be good to contact the maintainer and collaborate with him.. > > If the old functionality is gone and it is a pretty much new plugin > I'd vote to create a new plugin and give credits to the "inspirator" > of the former plugin with "based on the plugin xyz created by" .. > > just my 2?? > > kind regards > Werner But surely if the new plugin still uses any code from the old plugin it will need to retain its copyright notices and license. Credit for "inspiration" won't be enough. Alister _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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> > But surely if the new plugin still uses any code from the old plugin it will need to retain its copyright notices and license. Credit for "inspiration" won't be enough. Surely you are right - if it's more than "inspiration" .. :) copyright on code still persists. Sorry if I was misunderstood.. regards Werner _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Dnia środa, 7 marca 2012 o 10:08:32 Patrice VERCHERE napisał(a):
> Thank you for your answers ! > > One first thing : i'm fan of qgis and now it's quite ok to use it for my > job. I know it's simple to criticize something, but it's difficult to do > the job. Unfortunatly, i don't know how making the work i'm talking > about... Don't worry. The QGIS "ecosystem" is growing, so it takes some time to grasp it all ;) Anyway, glad to see you're ready to act :) > Borys : I've uploaded the plugin in http://hub.qgis.org and made you and me > admin of the plugin. the first commit is your original plugin. Is it ok > for you ? I did it like that because i want to continue working on it ... Great! Thanks. There are more points on the TODO list, hopefully I'll be able to come back do the development later this year. One remark, it should be placed inside "User Plugins" rather than in the top level (your problems seem to be a bug, it should work). Hey Admins, can anybody move it or should we remove it & create again? > Then, i was talking about the plugin approuval and not about validation.... > sorry. Maybe indicating in http://plugins.qgis.org/ something like "Go to > Qgis plugin repo and click on Share a plugin. The approuval procedure > takes 2 weeks maximum. If not approuved, a e-mail will be sent to you." > should be a good thing... Oh yes! Such instructions would be precious. A common help webpage for whole the hub would be the easiest to implement, and hopefully enough. The present link to oryginal redmine guide is quite unsuitable for most users. Instead of mailing, the user could see his unapproved plugins and their status on the list. In this case the admin could just fill a note for ech plugin (e.g. "please fix A and B"). And the user would be informed about plugin metadata changed. > Then, when writing "Register your plugin at > http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins. The user plugin section on > hub can show plugin info, let users add issues/tickets for your plugin and > to have just ONE repository for all qgis plugins", actually it's not > possible. > Project can only be created in http://hub.qgis.org/projects/. So > is it possible to enable creating project in ..../qgis-user-plugins or > just say "Register your plugin at http://hub.qgis.org/projects/ ...." ? It's a bug I think. I was told already about problems with creating projects inside this section. But for me it works well. Don't you see an "Add subproject" button on http://hub.qgis.org/projects/qgis-user-plugins ? _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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Il 10/03/2012 13:39, Borys Jurgiel ha scritto:
>> Then, i was talking about the plugin approuval and not about validation.... >> sorry. Maybe indicating in http://plugins.qgis.org/ something like "Go to >> Qgis plugin repo and click on Share a plugin. The approuval procedure >> takes 2 weeks maximum. If not approuved, a e-mail will be sent to you." >> should be a good thing... Added, thanks. Please keep on suggesting ways to improve the pages, for better clarity. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer |
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