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Hash: SHA1 Folks, I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a director on the OSGeo Board. Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a change is honored by monetary compensation. It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. Best regards, Arnulf. [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll - -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB =7VFj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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Hi Arnulf,
Nooo! Don't go! Seriously though, do you think you'd feel less worn out if you managed to hand over some of your ambassadorial duties?
I have my own thoughts on the community and whether or not they agree with the strategic decisions that the board has made over the last few years- there is a difference between agreeing with and liking for a start- some of the decisions have been like taking medicine- you don't do it for the taste you do it to make you better!
Personally I think there are ways in which we, the board, could improve the way decisions are communicated and handled, but it is our role to make the difficult decisions, and no, not everyone is going to agree with them.
In summary it feels like I am a bit worn Jo
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Hi Arnulf,
I read your email with a mixed feeling. I feel that you will be greatly missed on the board, both for your opinions (which often echo'd mine) and also for your commitment to OSGeo and all the tasks that you used to take on and will now have to be taken over by other board members. Thank you very much BTW for offering to stick around for a bit for the transition with a new president, that will help a lot. OTOH, I also understand and appreciate the reasons behind your decision to move on. 6 years on the board is quite impressive and I'd like to extend big thanks to you on behalf of myself and of the whole community for all your work and outstanding commitment to OSGeo in the past years. With respect to the nagging feeling that some community members disagree with the (sometimes very tough) decisions made by the current board, I also have that feeling sometimes, but tend to remind myself that in a meritocracy, actions speak louder than words... this does not mean that I discard all input from the community (it's quite the contrary), but just that I value more the input that is accompanied with solutions and/or offers to help in a practical way. Community members should also keep in mind that commenting and ranting about a problem is easier than finding and applying a fix to it. I will be up for re-election this year myself and plan to run again to continue the work that I started as treasurer, but if some members think that my views (about meritocracy and all) or the board decisions that I supported are too radical, or simply that I and the rest of the board are too North-American, then they should consider running for the board themselves or supporting other candidates closer to their own view. As long as I am re-elected then I will consider that my views are shared by those who voted for me and that I have their implicit support. Finally, about the CRO role, if there is really no chance that you change your mind and run for another 2 years on the board then I'm +1 on you taking on the CRO role. (We should really make a formal motion about this though.) Cheers Arnulf and thanks again! Daniel On 12-05-17 5:45 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Folks, > I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time > for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) > It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is > now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo > in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and > lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a > director on the OSGeo Board. > > Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed > and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also > by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I > have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new > president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next > transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a > 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. > > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) > strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable > given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but > nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn > out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a > change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > > In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the > upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have > enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before > FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around > the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no > objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it > around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. > > Best regards, > Arnulf. > > [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll > > - -- > Exploring Space, Time and Mind > http://arnulf.us > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A > MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB > =7VFj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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Hey Arnulf,
I wanted to also thank you for all the energy, enthusiasm, ideas, thoughts and dedicated work and travel you put into OSGeo since its inception! It is something we can all take an example in. You jumped into the position of president because others including myself did not have the courage to do so. And you did it with dedication that can only be admired. Even on moving out of the board you are not instantly dropping the ball. Wow! Thanks a lot! Jeroen On 17 mei 2012, at 23:45, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Folks, > I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time > for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) > It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is > now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo > in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and > lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a > director on the OSGeo Board. > > Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed > and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also > by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I > have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new > president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next > transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a > 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. > > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) > strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable > given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but > nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn > out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a > change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > > In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the > upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have > enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before > FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around > the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no > objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it > around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. > > Best regards, > Arnulf. > > [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll > > - -- > Exploring Space, Time and Mind > http://arnulf.us > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A > MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB > =7VFj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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Hash: SHA1 Hey Jeroen, thanks for your kind words and confirming that I don't have to leave completely but can continue my work - just in a slightly different role. This is exactly what I intend to do, just hack on but in the role of a common member. If OSGeo works like it says it does then it should not make a big difference and this is my way of finding out. If it does not work we should either change our policy to meet with reality or we should change the reality to meet with our mission. Either way we will only find out by doing it which is one of the most important aspects to me in OSGeo, a functional do-ocracy. Cheers, Arnulf On 05/21/2012 12:36 AM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: > Hey Arnulf, I wanted to also thank you for all the energy, > enthusiasm, ideas, thoughts and dedicated work and travel you put > into OSGeo since its inception! It is something we can all take an > example in. You jumped into the position of president because > others including myself did not have the courage to do so. And you > did it with dedication that can only be admired. Even on moving out > of the board you are not instantly dropping the ball. Wow! Thanks a > lot! Jeroen > > On 17 mei 2012, at 23:45, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: > > Folks, I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is > a long time for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the > whole life. :-) It was a great pleasure working with you and > making OSGeo what it is now. Instead of dropping out completely I > wish to continue serving OSGeo in my best capacities (if I got them > right) as lateral thinker and lowest troll [0] but I would like to > pass on the burden of being a director on the OSGeo Board. > > Being president was a great experience and I have always felt > welcomed and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo > members and also by those who invited me. I will obviously > complete all tasks which I have accepted in my role as president > after my term ends unless the new president is keen on taking them > over right away. For the next transition it might be a good idea to > introduce the concept of a 'president elect' in order to avoid a > void during transition. > > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not > all) strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably > inevitable given the diversity of interests represented through > OSGeo - but nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I > am a bit worn out. And I am actually looking forward to do some > work which for a change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > > In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for > the upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we > have enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections > before FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support > from around the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the > board. If there are no objections I will set up a schedule for the > 2012 elections and send it around for approval at the board meeting > in three weeks. > > Best regards, Arnulf. > > [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll > >> _______________________________________________ Board mailing >> list [hidden email] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > - -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+6E20ACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b3NwgCeOZfdD12Vr3lqZ8NHJHFmJlVs dg0AnR7YK6f+IWY4D5x/r8cHwccGOBKV =tFoQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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Hash: SHA1 Daniel, thank you for understanding and supporting what I want to do. My feelings are also mixed about this but as I just noted in the other mail I have no intention of dropping the ball but rather continuing my activity as a common member. I hope that my mail was not too discouraging to new directors. I talked of a burden because I want to avoid that people step up just because it is cool to be a director or president of OSGeo. The coolness factor is a nice addition but it should not be the primary motivation. So far we only had directors who really meant what they were doing, therefore it is appropriate to give another big thanks to all ex-directors and currently active board members! I really mean all of them (just to make sure there is no impartiality here). I very much thank you, Daniel, for re-running for the board and preparing to take on another round of the rather thankless job of the treasurer and associated work, you will get all my support. This is not to say that there cannot be another director taking this one, maybe someone really savvy is around and interested. (Ugh, it is so complicated to be just and nice to everyone... :-). Cheers, Arnulf On 05/18/2012 04:57 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote: > Hi Arnulf, > > I read your email with a mixed feeling. I feel that you will be > greatly missed on the board, both for your opinions (which often > echo'd mine) and also for your commitment to OSGeo and all the > tasks that you used to take on and will now have to be taken over > by other board members. Thank you very much BTW for offering to > stick around for a bit for the transition with a new president, > that will help a lot. > > OTOH, I also understand and appreciate the reasons behind your > decision to move on. 6 years on the board is quite impressive and > I'd like to extend big thanks to you on behalf of myself and of the > whole community for all your work and outstanding commitment to > OSGeo in the past years. > > With respect to the nagging feeling that some community members > disagree with the (sometimes very tough) decisions made by the > current board, I also have that feeling sometimes, but tend to > remind myself that in a meritocracy, actions speak louder than > words... this does not mean that I discard all input from the > community (it's quite the contrary), but just that I value more the > input that is accompanied with solutions and/or offers to help in a > practical way. Community members should also keep in mind that > commenting and ranting about a problem is easier than finding and > applying a fix to it. > > I will be up for re-election this year myself and plan to run again > to continue the work that I started as treasurer, but if some > members think that my views (about meritocracy and all) or the > board decisions that I supported are too radical, or simply that I > and the rest of the board are too North-American, then they should > consider running for the board themselves or supporting other > candidates closer to their own view. As long as I am re-elected > then I will consider that my views are shared by those who voted > for me and that I have their implicit support. > > Finally, about the CRO role, if there is really no chance that you > change your mind and run for another 2 years on the board then I'm > +1 on you taking on the CRO role. (We should really make a formal > motion about this though.) > > Cheers Arnulf and thanks again! > > Daniel > > > On 12-05-17 5:45 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: Folks, I have been > on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time for an > organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) It > was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is > now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving > OSGeo in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral > thinker and lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden > of being a director on the OSGeo Board. > > Being president was a great experience and I have always felt > welcomed and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo > members and also by those who invited me. I will obviously complete > all tasks which I have accepted in my role as president after my > term ends unless the new president is keen on taking them over > right away. For the next transition it might be a good idea to > introduce the concept of a 'president elect' in order to avoid a > void during transition. > > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not > all) strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably > inevitable given the diversity of interests represented through > OSGeo - but nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I > am a bit worn out. And I am actually looking forward to do some > work which for a change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > > In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for > the upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we > have enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections > before FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support > from around the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the > board. If there are no objections I will set up a schedule for the > 2012 elections and send it around for approval at the board meeting > in three weeks. > > Best regards, Arnulf. > > [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll > >> _______________________________________________ Board mailing >> list [hidden email] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > - -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+6FToACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b3ICwCeM1R/++IiGkAzErkitHzLJdCN PAUAn3QHoRskXDsM2vLnsypKCZkYIsgj =Epc1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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On 05/18/2012 11:36 AM, Jo Cook wrote:
> Hi Arnulf, > > Nooo! Don't go! No worries, I wont. Just becoming a regular member and then bullying the board some more. Basically no change in sight. And thanks for the implied appreciation of my work which I want to return - it is great to have you on the board and bring in a different perspective (than the old white North American hacker folks - ah, sorry, no offence meant to you others on the board and to the whole continent, basically). Ugh, see, /me no good at ambassadoring at all, plus offensive and polite half the time and not even spelling out correct English here. > Seriously though, do you think you'd feel less worn out if you managed > to hand over some of your ambassadorial duties? Maybe the Ambassador role will help to give conference organizers more options to choose from, then it does not have to be a burden for one but can be an honor for many. > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) > strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable > given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but > nonetheless it is a strain. > > > I have my own thoughts on the community and whether or not they agree > with the strategic decisions that the board has made over the last few > years- there is a difference between agreeing with and liking for a > start- some of the decisions have been like taking medicine- you don't > do it for the taste you do it to make you better! Haha, I like that one. So true. > Personally I think there are ways in which we, the board, could improve > the way decisions are communicated and handled, but it is our role to > make the difficult decisions, and no, not everyone is going to agree > with them. Yes. > In summary it feels like I am a bit worn > out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a > change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > I'm really sorry to hear that, and I think it's a huge loss to the > organisation, but I quite understand your decision and totally support it. Ah, no, I don't think so and I would honestly hate to be a loss. What do I have to do to become a win again (without running for the board?). Cheers, Arnulf > Jo > > > -- > ***Jo Cook* > Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, > KT18 7RL, UK > t:+44 750 095 8167 <tel:%2B44%20750%20095%208167> > iShare - Data integration and publishing platform > <http://www.isharemaps.com/> > > ***************************************** > > Company registration no. 5410695. Registered in England and Wales. > Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no. > 864201149. > -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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Arnulf, will be missed very much for all his spirited work. Nice to know that he will help the transition. Ravi Kumar On 12-05-17 5:45 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Folks, > I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time > for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) > It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is > now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo > in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and > lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a > director on the OSGeo Board. > > Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed > and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also > by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I > have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new > president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next > transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a > 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. > > There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a > nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) > strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable > given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but > nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn > out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a > change is honored by monetary compensation. > > It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to > arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. > > > > > In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the > upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have > enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before > FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around > the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no > objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it > around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. > > Best regards, > Arnulf. > > [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll > > - -- > Exploring Space, Time and Mind > http://arnulf.us > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A > MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB > =7VFj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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On 22 May 2012 12:03, Ravi Kumar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Arnulf, will be missed very much for all his spirited work. > Nice to know that he will help the transition. > Ravi Kumar > > On 12-05-17 5:45 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Folks, >> I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time >> for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) >> It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is >> now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo >> in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and >> lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a >> director on the OSGeo Board. >> >> Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed >> and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also >> by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I >> have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new >> president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next >> transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a >> 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. >> >> There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a >> nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) >> strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable >> given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but >> nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn >> out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a >> change is honored by monetary compensation. >> >> It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to >> arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. >> >> >> >> >> In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the >> upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have >> enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before >> FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around >> the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no >> objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it >> around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. >> >> Best regards, >> Arnulf. >> >> [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll >> >> - -- >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind >> http://arnulf.us >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A >> MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB >> =7VFj >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Board mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > > -- Daniel Morissette > http://www.mapgears.com/ > Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > Arnulf I want to adhere to the general grateful sentiment to your amazing job all this years, always inspiring, provocative and sometimes mind blowing (it the best sense I can think of, the one that makes things to happen). So, shall I assume we will have more of Seven and less from Arnulf? :-) -- Jorge Sanz http://es.osgeo.org _______________________________________________ Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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I sent this to Arnulf privately and he has suggested I share it (it
includes some less relevant parts). The most relevant part: it is especially important that everyone can and should ask questions all the time; this is the process by which OSGeo belongs to everyone. If you do or don't like something that the Board of Directors is doing, you should certainly feel free to share that on the Board or Discuss list. What's the Board doing anyway? Find out here, http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/ or sign up for the list yourself. Also, agendas, notes, and other details here, http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board Thanks to Arnulf for contributing to the Board for six (not Seven?) years. Best Regards, Eli On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) <[hidden email]> wrote: > Eli, > thanks for your kind words. If I got this right this mail went to me > personally only - but what you say is also important for the rest of the > board and the community. So please feel free to re-post or forward to > the board or discuss list. You clarify some things I was short on and > point out important aspects which would be good to spread through the > broader lists, especially that you want to make sure that everyone can > and should ask questions all the time. Flattening the apparent(?) > opinion hierarchy within OSGeo is what we should be watching out for in > coming years. Six years into existence stabilizes things - which is good > in some aspects but dangerous for continuous innovation and agility. > > Thanks, > Arnulf > > > On 05/18/2012 07:20 AM, Eli Adam wrote: >> Arnulf, >> >>> >>> Folks, >>> I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time >>> for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-) >>> It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is >>> now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo >>> in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and >>> lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a >>> director on the OSGeo Board. >> >> Thanks for serving and providing some historical continuity and >> institutional memory over the long haul. I'm sure that valuable >> resource will continue to be an important contribution. Hopefully the >> number of hours you dedicate can decrease slightly freeing you up for >> other activities. >> >> By definition of LT, aren't you defacto wrong in your decision? I >> should certainly know better than to engage you in some amorphous open >> ended discussion, please just take note of an attempt at humor and >> appreciate that without engaging :). >> >> >>> >>> Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed >>> and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also >>> by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I >>> have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new >>> president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next >>> transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a >>> 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition. >>> >>> There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a >>> nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all) >>> strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable >>> given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but >>> nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn >>> out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a >>> change is honored by monetary compensation. >> >> As someone who has publicly rigorously questioned the Board on >> strategic decisions, I feel compelled to mention that even then and >> now I explicitly support the Board in making the decisions they see >> fit. I just reserve the right to ask as many questions as I want. >> Through that, I have actually come to think that they were the correct >> (and probably only) decisions to make. So now there are only ('many' >> -1) objecting. I think that you may be over estimating the number of >> people objecting but you are also probably more tuned in than I am. >> >>> >>> It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to >>> arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the >>> upcoming elections and suggest to get started asap so that we have >>> enough time to run through Charter Member and Board elections before >>> FOSS4G 2012. My hope is that we will receive broad support from around >>> the globe and also to get some fresh faces on the board. If there are no >>> objections I will set up a schedule for the 2012 elections and send it >>> around for approval at the board meeting in three weeks. >> >> Thanks for all of your work, and as you said to Jeff, see you later. >> >> Merry Mapping, Eli >> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Arnulf. >>> >>> [0] http://arnulf.us/Lowest_Troll >>> >>> - -- >>> Exploring Space, Time and Mind >>> http://arnulf.us >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAk+1cXcACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2jGwCfdozNa25cNSiITMf+3CxPCD4A >>> MQ0AoILnvxD5esQwqQxcJd6QtIvAQkhB >>> =7VFj >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Board mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > > -- > Exploring Space, Time and Mind > http://arnulf.us Board mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board |
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