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Dear all,
the GeoTiff SWG decided on a media type for GeoTiff: image/tiff; application=geotiff See https://github.com/opengeospatial/geotiff/issues/34#issuecomment-514078289 Based on the assumption that IANA accepts it, I'm wondering whether COGs could also get a recommended media type now. Two proposals from my side: - image/tiff; application=geotiff; cloud-optimized=true - image/tiff; application=geotiff; cog=true What do you think? Having a recommendation would be very helpful for STAC and openEO, for example. Best, Matthias _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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Thanks Matthias, I’m +1 on `image/tiff; application=geotiff; cloud-optimized=true` > Le 24 juill. 2019 à 13:35, Matthias Mohr <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Dear all, > > the GeoTiff SWG decided on a media type for GeoTiff: image/tiff; application=geotiff > See https://github.com/opengeospatial/geotiff/issues/34#issuecomment-514078289 > > Based on the assumption that IANA accepts it, I'm wondering whether COGs could also get a recommended media type now. > > Two proposals from my side: > - image/tiff; application=geotiff; cloud-optimized=true > - image/tiff; application=geotiff; cog=true > > What do you think? > > Having a recommendation would be very helpful for STAC and openEO, for example. > > Best, > Matthias > _______________________________________________ > COG mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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Matthias, Vincent: A boolean mime type parameters is not the way to do this. Defining whether "cloud-optimized=false" has any meaning is just the first weird detail that would have to be handled. Something like "profile=cog" would be better and would be open to other profiles. Debates about the name of the new parameter may be moot because TIFF has registered only the "application" parameter: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/tiff and according to Mark Nottingham [2] third-party parameters are seen to have the potential to break the internet [2]. But maybe IANA will be fine with it in 2019. If a new parameter were not an option, a "geotiff-cog" value for the application parameter would be consistent with the TIFF spec and IANA registration and is worth a consideration. "geotiff" is also a completely new parameter value and practically no software understands what it means right now. There's a small window perhaps to mint a second parameter value and get all the software that would implement "application=geotiff" on board with "geotiff-cog" (or whatever). Sidebar: I feel like "cloud-optimized geotiff" is pretty vague about the implementation and "cog" even more so. If this sub type were to be formalized, I'd hope we could come up with something more technically clear and less buzzy like "http optimized" or "direct access". [2] https://www.mnot.net/blog/2012/04/17/profiles, comment on Thursday, April 19 2012 at 5:35 AM On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:46 PM Vincent Sarago <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sean Gillies _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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In reply to this post by Matthias Mohr
> Le 24 juill. 2019 à 13:35, Matthias Mohr <[hidden email]> a écrit :
> > Based on the assumption that IANA accepts it, I'm wondering whether COGs > could also get a recommended media type now. +1 on `image/tiff; application=geotiff; cloud-optimized=true` - Marc Pfister _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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As I posted over at https://github.com/opengeospatial/geotiff/issues/34 I think it would be better to have tiling and overviews brought out as characteristics of the geotiff MIME type. So modify the existing registration.
Brad -----Original Message----- From: COG <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Pfister, Marc Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2019 6:39 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [COG] Media type > Le 24 juill. 2019 à 13:35, Matthias Mohr <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Based on the assumption that IANA accepts it, I'm wondering whether > COGs could also get a recommended media type now. +1 on `image/tiff; application=geotiff; cloud-optimized=true` - Marc Pfister _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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In reply to this post by Sean Gillies-3
> Sidebar: I feel like "cloud-optimized geotiff" is pretty vague about the
> implementation and "cog" even more so. If this sub type were to be > formalized, I'd hope we could come up with something more technically clear > and less buzzy like "http optimized" or "direct access". https://gdal.org/drivers/raster/cog.html#file-format-details could serve as a base for this. -- Spatialys - Geospatial professional services http://www.spatialys.com _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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I'm +1 on cloud-optimized=true over cog And I do think we should formalize it into a spec, starting with the gdal details as the base. I started a repo ages ago https://github.com/cogeotiff/cog-spec but never got anywhere past porting the GDAL page over, as I got overtaken by other tasks :( But doing it in its own repo had mostly been since OGC hadn't established an actual geotiff spec / repo, so I'd say it probably makes sense to make an extension for COG of some sort that builds on https://github.com/opengeospatial/geotiff/ and hopefully is even in the same repo. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:56 PM Even Rouault <[hidden email]> wrote: > Sidebar: I feel like "cloud-optimized geotiff" is pretty vague about the _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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I would suggest the usage of the profile link relation
image/tiff; profile=<URI-reference> the value to be defined (for example it could be https://www.cogeo.org/ ) Further reading at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6906#section-3.1 and check also https://ruben.verborgh.org/articles/fine-grained-content-negotiation/ FYI this is already being used by GML https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/gml+xml > On 25 Jul 2019, at 04:34, Chris Holmes <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm +1 on cloud-optimized=true over cog > > And I do think we should formalize it into a spec, starting with the gdal details as the base. > > I started a repo ages ago https://github.com/cogeotiff/cog-spec but never got anywhere past porting the GDAL page over, as I got overtaken by other tasks :( > > But doing it in its own repo had mostly been since OGC hadn't established an actual geotiff spec / repo, so I'd say it probably makes sense to make an extension for COG of some sort that builds on https://github.com/opengeospatial/geotiff/ and hopefully is even in the same repo. > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:56 PM Even Rouault <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Sidebar: I feel like "cloud-optimized geotiff" is pretty vague about the > > implementation and "cog" even more so. If this sub type were to be > > formalized, I'd hope we could come up with something more technically clear > > and less buzzy like "http optimized" or "direct access". > > https://gdal.org/drivers/raster/cog.html#file-format-details > could serve as a base for this. > > -- > Spatialys - Geospatial professional services > http://www.spatialys.com > _______________________________________________ > COG mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog > _______________________________________________ > COG mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog _______________________________________________ COG mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/cog |
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